This Hunger for Holiness: An Interview with Barbara Brown Taylor

Rev. Barbara Brown Taylor.


This interview between Krista Tippett and preacher/teacher Barbara Brown Taylor captures a conversation that lands on "holiness" as an alternative to "spiritual but not religious."


A thoughtful exploration of faith and personal thoughts about searching for a real relationship with God; personal, real-life experience; presented as a podcast as well as a transcript of the interview.

Recommended Audience

Those with a progressive theological worldview



Practical Applications

  • Experience faith in a new way.
  • Seek, along with your congregation, to understand "holiness."
  • Integrate the podcast into the curriculum of a church class reading one of Barbara Brown Taylor's books.

About the Contributor

Tim Shapiro

Tim Shapiro is the Indianapolis Center’s president. He began serving the Center in 2003 after 18 years in pastoral ministry. For 14 years, Tim served Westminster Presbyterian Church in Xenia, Ohio. Prior to his pastorate at Westminster, he was pastor of Bethlehem Presbyterian Church in Logansport, Indiana. He holds degrees from Purdue University and Louisville Presbyterian Theological Seminary.

Tim’s interest in how congregations learn to do new things is represented in his book How Your Congregation LearnsAfter his extensive work on the Center’s Sacred Space initiative, Tim co-authored the book Holy Places: Matching Sacred Space with Mission and MessageHe has also authored several articles, including Applying Positive Deviance and The Congregation of Theological Coherence.

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